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| Exposing the Many Reasons Not to Trust GoDaddy with Your Domain Names |
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| Introduction | Headlines | Alternative Registrars | ||
| GoDaddy Horror Stories | Forums | NoDaddy Girls | ||
| Free Speech Organizations | Acknowledgments | Legal Threats | ||
| Introduction |
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Many people don't think much about choosing a registrar, and simply pick one they have heard of. This often leads them to GoDaddy, who may be the leader in money spent on marketing and advertising (on the Super Bowl and elsewhere). Unfortunately GoDaddy doesn't seem to focus much on stability, security, or customer service. Instead that have devised innovative ways to overcharge customers and thwart customer attempts to transfer to superior registrars.
This site was created by Gordon Lyon (AKA Fyodor) after GoDaddy intentionally shut down one of my most important sites (SecLists.Org) without even giving me a reason. When GoDaddy noticed their blunder and reporters started calling them on it, they resorted to libeling me. A wired reporter even caught them in a lie as their General Counsel Christine Jones contradicted herself in a single interview. Since this site isn't just about my story, I've moved the full details here.
I created this site to document instances of customer abuse at GoDaddy. The goal is for GoDaddy to either improve their policies and customer service, or suffer continued loss of market share to their customer-focused competition.
While I gave this site its bare skeleton, it has become a community effort. As noted in the acknowledgments section, the site logo, some HTML work, the forums, and legal help have all been donated by volunteers. Even this domain name itself was donated by someone with his own horror stories about GoDaddy!
| GoDaddy Horror Stories, Issues, Problems and General Complaints |
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This section describes some of the most serious problems with the GoDaddy service (news reports and first-hand accounts):
GoDaddy suspends accounts without due cause. They often even levy an arbitrary "fines" and hold your domain name ransom until you pay it. GoDaddy stores your credit card number when you make a purchase, allowing them to levy "fines" without your consent (example1, example2, example3).
For example, when Nick Berlette exposed a serious security hole in the website of DynaDot.Com, they apparently responded by persuading GoDaddy to shut down his blog rather than fixing their pathetic security [agiorlando.com]. GoDaddy of course complied immediately, and sent him this shutdown notice. Note that GoDaddy used the ransom approach here, saying he had two options: Pay a "$199 non-refundable reactivation fee" and GD will put his web site back up, or "if you choose to transfer the berlettefx.com domain name to another registrar, we first require that you pay a $75 administration fee ... to cover the costs of responding to or "cleaning up" the situation caused by your web site.
The author of this web page had a similar experience.
GoDaddy loses customer domains. Tim Ziegler learned this the hard way. He founded the site FamilyAlbum.com. Someone filed a complaint that his whois data was invalid. GoDaddy responded by sending him an email asking him to confirm or correct his whois registration data. When he didn't respond in time, GoDaddy took the extraordinary step of deleting the domain name he had paid for and selling it to someone (possibly the same guy who filed the whois complaint) who had already placed a backorder on FamilyAlbum.Com. GoDaddy refused to return the domain name to its rightful owner. There is a good writeup at Domain Name Wire, along with a GoDaddy response where they disclaim responsibility. DomainNameWire also asked other registrars what they would have done. None of them had the GoDaddy policy of "send an email then delete the domain if no response comes in time". If you hold domains at GoDaddy, you better not go on any extended vacations, suffer hospitalization, or use a spam filter which might drop that critical email!
GoDaddy uses dirty tricks to block domain name transfers. If you make the mistake of becoming a GoDaddy customer, you may find it difficult to leave. ICANN is supposed to regulate registrars to ensure competition, but GoDaddy is constantly pushing the boundaries. For example, this section just discussed how GoDaddy may delete your domain if you don't keep your whois information up-to-date. But whenever you update the information, a checkbox pops up saying "For security purposes I authorize the rejection of all transfer requests for all selected domain names for a period of 60 days...". If you don't check that box, GoDaddy won't let you update your contact information. And if you do check the box, GoDaddy refuses to let you transfer the domain because they claim you "expressly and voluntarily objected through opt-in means" to the transfer. There is a thread about this on NoDaddy forums. GoDaddy imposes the 60-day transfer embargo in other cases too, such as when you transfer a domain name between accounts. If they make you wait long enough, you may have to renew the domain name so it doesn't expire. Renewals cause another 60-day transfer embargo.
GoDaddy knows they are violating ICANN rules with the whois-change-embargo, and will back down if they believe you will file an ICANN complaint. Detailed instructions for what to say have been posted at the forums.
GoDaddy charges extra for a privacy service, then gives up your contact information to anyone who threatens to sue. In News.Com's Private domains not so private?, Alan Cordle pays extra for GoDaddy's privacy service on his poetry contest review site (Foetry.Com), then is outed by GoDaddy at the first sign of trouble.
Want to read more horror stories or post one of your own? Check out the NoDaddy forums!
| Forums |
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We have just launched the NoDaddy Forums at Forums.NoDaddy.Com. This is the best place to discuss your horror stories, alternative registrars, etc. Some of the best postings will be showcased on this page. Big thanks to Rohan Sheth for setting these up!
Remember to stay level-headed and professional in the forums! A reasoned argument is far more persuasive than an obscenity-laden tirade, even when GoDaddy really deserves the latter.
| Latest Posts | ||
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| News: Canadian Whois changes fights Spam, Domain Hijacking | News | Tue, 06 May 2008 03:11:18 GMT |
| Re: www.8BP.com and www.SOSU.com stolen! | Horror Stories | Mon, 05 May 2008 17:21:36 GMT |
| GoDaddy invalidates a correct phone number, added correspondance | General Talk | Sun, 04 May 2008 06:11:12 GMT |
| Re: Stole my money! | Horror Stories | Sat, 03 May 2008 17:02:22 GMT |
| Re: UPDATE: GoDaddy complies | News | Sat, 03 May 2008 17:01:32 GMT |
| Stole my money! | Horror Stories | Sat, 03 May 2008 11:30:26 GMT |
| UPDATE: GoDaddy complies | News | Sat, 03 May 2008 10:55:01 GMT |
| Re: Anyone even bother to use Website Tonight? | GoDaddy Hosting Horrors | Fri, 02 May 2008 23:46:06 GMT |
| Re: Anyone even bother to use Website Tonight? | GoDaddy Hosting Horrors | Fri, 02 May 2008 23:19:30 GMT |
| Re: www.8BP.com and www.SOSU.com stolen! | Horror Stories | Fri, 02 May 2008 22:34:33 GMT |
| NoDaddy Girls and Comic strips |
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Nothing hurts GoDaddy worse than biting satire! Plus, everyone needs a good laugh. We're hoping you'll submit your own creative work mocking GoDaddy. Here are some ideas:
You may think GoDaddy treats women (and midgets) in a degrading and disrespectful fashion, but customers get it even worse!
You can post your creations to the NoDaddy Forums or mail them to Fyodor (or both) to be posted to this section.
| Alternative Registrars |
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We haven't performed any significant evaluation of these yet so please don't treat these as our recommendations. Do your own research. But we have heard at least some good things about each entry on this list, so it is a good place to start. And they can't be much worse than GoDaddy! We are only listing ICANN accredited registrars, not resellers. They are in alphabetical order.
To read about other people's experiences with different registrars, or to share your own, check out the NoDaddy forums!
| Headlines |
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| Latest News Posts | ||
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| News: Canadian Whois changes fights Spam, Domain Hijacking |
A good news story: The Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) is overhauling of their Whois registry: * All domain name owner's details will be private, including email. * Resellers will not be permitted to give out that information except in ... | Tue, 06 May 2008 03:11:18 GMT |
| Re: UPDATE: GoDaddy complies |
An Update on this story:
DomainWire reports GoDaddy is now complying with the ICANN directive to lift the 60 day transfer locking: http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/29/godaddy-allows-t... | Sat, 03 May 2008 17:01:32 GMT |
| UPDATE: GoDaddy complies |
An Update on this story: DomainWire reports GoDaddy is now complying with the ICANN directive to lift the 60 day transfer locking: http://domainnamewire.com/2008/04/29/godaddy-allows-transfers-after-whois-changes/ | Sat, 03 May 2008 10:55:01 GMT |
| Re: News: ICANN to end "domain tasting" |
A well-written piece on this story with an International Herald Tribune byline: http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1360660/industry_tries_to_curb_cyber_squatting/ BTW Alicia's company is Skimbit. Related story on typosquatting: http://www.csoonlin... | Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:52:54 GMT |
| Re: News: ICANN to end "domain tasting" | Good to hear...I've been waiting ![]() | Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:00:07 GMT |
| News: ICANN to end "domain tasting" | ICANN is an organization responsible for overseeing the Internet, including domain registrars such as GoDaddy. ICANN has copped a lot of criticism over the years, because besides collecting its own "ICANN tax", it has done very little to keep the regis... | Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:44:52 GMT |
| Re: News: Network Solutions subverts customer's subdomains |
Slashdot has picked up this story: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/11/1326235 TechCrunch scooped it: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/08/network-solutions-hijacking-unassigned-sub-domains/ | Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:53:49 GMT |
| News: Network Solutions subverts customer's subdomains |
This story is about Network Solutions rather than GoDaddy. Suppose you own a domain; example.com. People visiting your web may visit example.com, www.example.com, images.example.com or whatever else you have set up. These are called subdomains. Occasio... | Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:04:08 GMT |
| Slashdot reports GoDaddy transfer-blocking smackdown |
Popular Geek Newsite Slashdot.org has picked up this story. Hello Slashdotters! http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/04/08/0349253 | Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:32:27 GMT |
| Re: News: ICANN to smack down GoDaddy transfer-blocking scheme | Dang. Scooped by the both of you, but glad ICANN is finally (1) doing something as opposed to doing nothing, (2) doing something about this. The 60 day transfer block was a nasty trap that caught many people. One friend updated his details like he's su... | Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:40:59 GMT |
For the very latest news on GoDaddy, try Google News Search. Whenever you see a new GoDaddy fiasco in the news, please post a link at the NoDaddy Forums.
| Free Speech Organizations |
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While we don't accept donations, there are plenty of great organizations fighting for free speech who do. They also generally have tons of free information on their web sites. Examples are the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Public Citizen, and Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility. Also take a look at Chilling Effects, which archives content takedown attempts all over the Web.
| Acknowledgments |
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We would like to thank the many people who made this site possible. Big thanks to:
| Legal Threats |
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One thing GoDaddy has actually done right is that they haven't (yet?) threatened to shut this site down or sued us. Hopefully they won't stoop to that level, as their heavy-handed antics are what got them into this mess in the first place. But if we receive any threats or summonses from GoDaddy, we will post them here.
While we hope it doesn't come to this, several excellent attorneys with experience winning domain name cases very similar to this one have offered pro-bono assistance in case GoDaddy does attack. Big thanks to them!